Posted on

Building the ARC, with Ryan Kibbe – SOZO EP0005

Elevation Church WI

Podcast: Play in new window | Download

What a refreshing conversation!

I kick off this episode by asking Ryan Kibbe, pastor of Elevation Church in Green Bay, his most embarrassing memory. His response is hilarious!

Before we go any further, please take a moment to connect with Elevation Church Facebook page: https://www.facebook.com/ElevationChurchWi/

Elevation Church WI

The conversation begins with us talking about Ryan’s friendship with Bill Vanderbush who I interviewed in Sozo Episode 0003. Bill was an influence and contributor to Ted Dekker’s book The Forgotten Way and is a regular speaker at the Kingdom Culture Conference and also at the upcoming FREE Accellerant Conference at Elevation ARC facility in Green Bay on May 17th through May 19th. (Visit Elevation website for details)

Ryan Kibbe’s quote is featured on The Forgotten Way website:

“The Forgotten Way is as important to this generation as C.S. Lewis’ Mere Christianity was to his generation.”

Here is a video put out by Ted Dekker featuring Ryan Kibbe:

Pastor Ryan Kibbe from TED DEKKER on Vimeo.

In This Interview:

Ryan and I discuss topics such as what it mean to be “in Christ“?

“You are royalty! You are amazing! You are the Light of the World!”

Do you see yourself this way? Are you operating in your true identity?

Ryan answers the question, “What is the purpose of the church?” We unpack what the New Testament and Jesus says about our Apostolic mission as believers and about the five fold ministry to equip the church to do the work of the ministry changing atmospheres wherever we go.

THIS is why Elevation Church is Building the ARC (Apostolic Resource Center). A place to Come, Get Equipped, and Go!

Location: 2605 S Oneida St Green Bay, WI 54304

Elevation Church WI Map

Come to learn your identity in Christ. Get Equipped to discover your particular purpose and function in the body of Christ. Go be ministers of reconciliation in this world  and transform the world in your own spheres of influence.

“Let us think of ways to motivate one another to acts of love and good works. And let us not neglect our meeting together, as some people do, but encourage one another, especially now that the day of his return is drawing near.” Hebrews 10:24-25 NLT

Ryan and I also talk about the church wounds that have caused many to neglect meeting together, or even giving up on church entirely. How do we refrain from taking offense? How do we embrace the forgiveness that will bring healing? As a believer, you have been given authority by Jesus to forgive and bring healing to the world!

Ryan Kibbe

Enjoy this conversation with Ryan Kibbe! I trust it will help you learn how to fully enter into and engage a growing community of faith. We want this for you! Jesus wants this for you! The benefits are worth the risk!

I pray that you will come to fully experience the essence of the Kingdom of God in your life and home which is defined by Scripture as:

“Righteousness, Peace, and Joy in the Holy Spirit”!

More about Elevation Church Green Bay:

A New Building Space of Elevation Church Apostolic Resource Center (ARC)

Elevation Church Green Bay
Elevation Church 2605 South Oneida Street GB WI

Elevation Church Green Bay Sanctuary

Posted on

The Forgotten Way of Yeshua, with Bill Vanderbush – SOZO EP0003

The_Forgotten_Way_Dekker

Podcast: Play in new window | Download

SOZO Talk Radio EPISODE 0003

Bill and Ted’s Excellent Adventure Rediscovering The Forgotten Way of Yeshua

In this podcast we are talking with Bill Vanderbush who cowrote with Ted Dekker on their Magnum Opus, The Forgotten Way. (Bill is responsible for the Meditations in the book and the Study Guide.) This book is very significant to the Awakening that is (and has been) coming to the body of Christ!

The_Forgotten_Way_Dekker

I started to notice a change in Ted Dekkers Novels when Outlaw came out. “Wow, this is different. What happened to Ted?”

It seemed a shift had occurred in Ted’s life and I told my wife at the time, “Ted Dekker is going to be a critical player in the next Great Awakening”.

The following novels, the Outlaw series, encouraged me even more. And then A.D. 30 and his follow up book A.D. 33

Finally I had the opportunity to meet Bill Vanderbush at a conference and picked up a copy of The Forgotten Way. We hit it off right away, went out for coffee, and had some great conversations.

bill vanderbush

He taught on how to listen to Holy Spirit and “prophecy” – to reveal Jesus by strengthening, comforting and encouraging others as we speak the same thoughts God has for someone.

You want to see something fun?

My wife Catherine and I went to the 2017 Kingdom Culture Conference in Green Bay. After teaching about prophecy most of the sessions, and especially on the last day, the speaker Bill Vanderbush decided to put it into practice by calling some people up front to “prophecy”. My wife Catherine was one of the first to share that night. Then our good friends Kyle and Emily prophecy over Bill!

Here is the whole definitely-worth-your-time talk with Catherine sharing at about an hour in (link to where she starts):

“Earnestly pursue love, and earnestly desire spiritual gifts, and especially that you might prophesy.” 1 Corinthians 14:1 Berean Literal Bible

What Is Prophecy?

REVEALING THE HEART OF JESUS!

Well, Paul explains just a verse or so later:

“But one who prophesies strengthens others, encourages them, and comforts them.” 1 Corinthians 14:3 NIV

Prophecy then is a divinely inspired word of revelation (which literally means unveiling – WOW! – that’s the very word Catherine received in her prophecy!) straight from the heart of Jesus that “strengthens, encourages and comforts”.

Would you be surprised if I told you that Prophecy has little to do with “telling the future” or “the end times” or giving a “thus saith the Lord”? (I would highly recommend not trying the last one. It is bad practice for New Covenant saints).

Revelation 19:10 actually tells us that Prophecy is to “reveal or unveil Jesus”, to speak what he is saying. It is giving a clear witness of Jesus. Listen to this:

“Worship God, because what Jesus is saying is the spirit of prophecy!” Revelation 19:10 ISV

Here are some other ways the verse is translated:

  • “…the essence of prophecy is to give a clear witness for Jesus.” NLT
  • “For the testimony of Jesus is the spirit of prophecy.” NASB
  • “For it is the Spirit of prophecy who bears testimony to Jesus.” NIV

Bill Vanderbush tells a story about how he once told a meeting, “You all have Jesus THE Prophet living in you. That makes you all prophets.” The empowered people of God he then brought up from the crowd to minister amazed him with the heart of the Father revelations they brought by the Spirit.

So, how can we learn to hone and use this spiritual gift? Well, desiring it seems a great place to start!

“Let love be your highest goal! But you should also desire the special abilities the Spirit gives–especially the ability to prophesy.” 1 Corinthians 14:1 NLT

Here is where you can pick up The Forgotten Way on Amazon: